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When I went on the site today, I noticed that the ads, which I thought I'd banished with their Adblocker yesterday, were back. I activated their Adblocker again, and found out you can no longer get rid of them for three days at a time. Now it's down to just one day.

Do you think this little fact is on the homepage?

Nope. Not there. I think they don't want people to notice--though their customer base will realize the change soon enough.

It used to be that you could get a paid account at ff.net. I had one. For less than $20 a year, I had several perks (like traffic stats) and an Adblocker which worked for 30 days. Not just three, and certainly not a measly one. Then, little by little, the paid for perks were whittled away and offered to all and sundry. The paid for account became less and less appealing, then they dropped it entirely.

This just had to happen when I've been getting really irked by livejournal's interstitial ads. I have a plus account (I think that's what they call it), and while I don't mind the banner ads so much (after all, I knew they were going to be there when I signed up for this type of account), the interstitials take up the whole page and usually involve both video and sound. This can sometimes take my touchy sound card down. They also don't always disappear after you click on the "X". The picture might, but the sound remains. Whether or not this is a technical glitch, I'm not sure, but it's certainly a PITA.

If Fanfiction.net wasn't such a central, easy-to-use archive, and the main archive of my fandom, I'd probably not use it at all. I have most of my fics archived at both Lunaescence and FanNation, neither of which have these annoying ads. (I don't consider lj to be fanfic friendly; the only things I've posted here have been on drabble communities.)  I'm beginning to wonder if I should post any new stuff at one of the other places and link to my ff.net profile.

It might be a good thing for fanfiction.net to perhaps offer a paid subscription again--if they can come up with some perks that would make it worthwhile. It certainly could help their bottom line, and let the rest of the site go back to a three-day holiday from ads, instead of just one. The way things are going, though, their little Adblocker comment is becoming less and less true. Pretty soon, they'll be giving up that "compromise between showing ads to offset operating costs and crossing the line to the point of annoying our users." In fact. they might already have. 

Date: 2010-04-01 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zooey-glass04.livejournal.com
(Here via fandom_news.)

Hey there!

I don't know if you've come across the Archive of Our Own (http://archiveofourown.org/), but it's another option for anyone who wants to host their fic and/or read at a multi-fandom Archive. It's run by the Organization for Transformative Works (http://transformativeworks.org/) which is a fan-run non-profit. The org owns the servers, which means they're much less vulnerable to commercial pressures, etc, than many other sites, and it is not ad-supported.

You may already know about the AO3 and have decided it's not for you, but I thought I'd drop a comment just in case. It's a newish Archive, and currently in open beta (you have to sign up for an invitation to join, although the queue is currently less than two days wait time). This means that some things are still being developed, but also that there's lots of potential for asking for cool new things and getting them.

(Full disclosure, I'm chair of the Accessibility, Design and Technology committee, which oversees the development of the Archive. I'm definitely not wanting to be all 'OMG you should join OUR Archive - although naturally I think it's pretty damn cool - but I thought you might like to know it existed!)

Date: 2010-04-01 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikatu.livejournal.com
Thanks for stopping by. I am aware of AO3. Tell me, has anyone from the Thunderbirds fandom joined there? I was under the impression that a lot of the fiction posted there was from current or more recent media properties. FanNation and Lunaescence are also fan-run (and, so far, ad-free), but the vast majority of the writers for my fandom hang out at either ff.net or the one fandom-specific, by invitation-only, archive.

Date: 2010-04-01 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zooey-glass04.livejournal.com
There's quite a range of fic there now (5644 and counting) but no Thunderbirds fic as yet. We would like to welcome as diverse a range of fandoms as possible, although of course if people have a strong base elsewhere then they will not be keen to move, whether they like the new archive or not. So, if you or other people from your fandom ever wanted another / an additional home, you'd be very welcome on the AO3. (And if there are technical ways in which it doesn't fit the bill, now or in the future, we always welcome feedback (http://archiveofourown.org/support).)

I hadn't come across fannation before! I love that fandom is always working to propagate itself in all sorts of different ways and places.

Date: 2010-04-01 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikatu.livejournal.com
FanNation is an attempt to keep a lot of the FanLib community together, and the members are good about reviewing and helping authors improve. They have a really active forum.

Date: 2010-04-01 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vamp-ress.livejournal.com
Stopping by...

I only visit ff.net with my Adblock Plus on, which works nicely - no ads for me. On the other hand, I think ff.net has become virtually unusable if you don't use some kind of adblocker - the ads are just everywhere, constantly AND they're very intrusive. Sometimes, I really wonder why so many people still post there - it's not like there are no alternatives (I tend to pimp out my personal alternative, http://www.skyehawke.com whenever I can, because I think it's a much nicer place *g*). I guess it's a snake biting its own tail. People post there, because everyone else is posting there and they believe it's a must-be place. If only a handful of people take the choice to go away, nothing will ever break ff.net's rule.

Date: 2010-04-01 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikatu.livejournal.com
I just looked at Skyehawke; seems like an interesting archive. Lots of the more recent fandoms there, too. Are readers there good about reviewing?

The ads at ff.net are very intrusive. I just cleaned out my history. When I went to the site and tried to activate the adblocker for the day, a full-page ad popped up... which stopped me until they'd decided I'd seen enough of the ad and let me skip it.

I know that their policy about adblocking came about in response to FanLib, but they're quickly becoming worse than that site ever was.

Date: 2010-04-01 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vamp-ress.livejournal.com
Well, reviewing could always be better. Generally very good for Harry Potter, less stellar for tiny fandoms because you have less drive-by fandom than on, say, ff.net. One of the main advantages, IMO, is the fact that it is a) fan-run and b) has no restriction on ratings.

If you're running Firefox, try the Adblock Plus plugin. It's really working wonders for me (though, occasionally, it cuts away important links).

Date: 2010-04-01 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikatu.livejournal.com
Thanks for the advice on the Adblock Plus. I'll have to add it to my plug-ins.

It's true that reviewing could always be better, no matter what the fandom or archive. Unfortunately, I've found that for the smaller (or older) fandoms, ff.net is probably the place where they'll get a larger audience and more drive-by reviews.

Date: 2010-04-01 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vamp-ress.livejournal.com
True, I'm afraid. That's probably (at least in part) because for a lot of people it's the first stop when they're looking for a particular fandom. It'd be interesting to see whether this might change once more people use places like Delicious to find fic.

Date: 2010-04-03 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iron-kat.livejournal.com
Couldn't help but comment since I noticed that, too. I always go to the ad blocker page on FF Net before I do anything else on the site. I won't use the site without that feature, so if they take it away, I'm gone. Before I knew about the feature, I stayed away from FF Net for almost a year because I got a virus on my computer from their ads.

Date: 2010-04-03 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tikatu.livejournal.com
Interestingly enough, I went to FictionPress and they still have a three day Adblocker. I bet that if they went to one day there, the traffic levels would drop drastically.

Date: 2010-04-06 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dark-senshi.livejournal.com
So, I'm not the only one who noticed that...

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